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goda90today at 4:31 AM3 repliesview on HN

If these data centers are going to be so profitable, then it should be simple to make guarantees about clean self-power, closed loop cooling, and noise and light pollution mitigation. There definitely shouldn't be deals to avoid taxes while lying about job creation.

Maybe if they did those things, there would be fewer permitting fights.


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explodestoday at 4:48 AM

This is pretty much exactly my gripes, too. Data centers are necessary, but why are we doing this all the wrong way?

The new Utah data center is building new gas pipelines to generate 9GW instead of requiring ANY percentage of green energy, while also giving massive tax breaks that the families living nearby and statewide will have to cover.

For actionable information on this specific project, see:

https://www.breatheutah.org/news/the-stratos-project-questio...

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bayarearefugeetoday at 4:39 AM

> There definitely shouldn't be deals to avoid taxes while lying about job creation.

The people making those deals are physiologically incapable of not attempting to benefit from socialized externalities to make obscene levels of private profit.

You might as well be asking them to voluntarily stop breathing or pay a fair amount of taxes, they just can't do it.

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protocolturetoday at 5:04 AM

>clean self-power

Just clean and scale the grid.

>closed loop cooling

Just clean and scale your water supply. Remove all the lead that's clearly in there while you are at it.

>noise and light pollution mitigation

NextDC B2 has its phase 2 under construction right now, after the construction workers have all gone home theres no external noise from Phase 1. You can stand outside Equinix SY1 2 or 3 and you cant hear anything but road noise. Its a solved engineering problem. Any deviance from this can be interrogated locally. Its not a pertinent issue with Datacenters as a class.