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TehCorwiztoday at 5:25 PM4 repliesview on HN

Because AI companies basically took everything we ever wrote, drew, recorded, posted, or thought and turned it into a product with the power to lie, propagandize, and manipulate the public with zero oversight. Walmart is a parasite using welfare to subsidize their operations but they didn't tell a judge that they were immune to copyright because they stole just so much damn information.


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chrischentoday at 5:36 PM

Yes but all the AI companies took all the public data, so when you pay for an AI model you are paying for the marginal service of building a model off that data, not for the data itself. What we should do is ensure that the data is available to more people to train AI models... but sadly this doesn't seem to be happening. Instead AI companies that were first-movers got to train off public data, and as the companies and businesses that own this data get wise they're going to start charging people to train off the data. This will make it much more difficult for anyone to train a model in the future as it will become expensive, and the companies that did happen to already train off public data will get a bit of incumbent's advantage.

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onlyrealcuzzotoday at 6:42 PM

So if they only use public domain data, and data from the Chinese and Europeans, do you still feel entitled to their valuations?

Because I hate to break it to you, they could have zero drop in quality by just not incorporating US data...

If we're talking about copyright, why are we somehow entitled to profits derived from stealing Taylor Swift's IP? Why do you get a cut of AI derivatives and not get half of her wealth, too, directly?

Microsoft has trained models entirely on synthetic and public data with SotA results.

rayinertoday at 5:41 PM

“Took?” AI companies aren’t removing the information from the public domain. What happened to “information wants to be free?”

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speak_plainlytoday at 5:46 PM

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