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uramstoday at 5:41 AM2 repliesview on HN

I will remember from now on that you can compare war to Lebron playing in a championship game but not to him playing in a pickup game.

But to be clear, the comment I replied to was one in which you made an abstract point that it doesn't make a difference to someone if you can do something but in practice don't/aren't willing to and I think that this is obviously wrong (just because Lebron didn't dunk doesn't mean he can't or is a bad ball player). You don't like the Lebron analogy, that's fine. Let's use a war analogy: in 2025 Pakistan and India, two nuclear armed countries, exchanged significant fire. Neither was willing to use their nuclear arsenals. Should we now conclude from this that they can't use their nuclear arsenals and are therefore equivalent to being non-nuclear countries? I mean who cares if they have nuclear weapons which can (can't?) kill millions if this one time their political will wasn't there for them to use them in their defense?

> Rather, this is an object lesson that war is politics by other means, and here we tried to do war without any politics and it has not gone well for us.

Be careful not to trip over your rhetoric in an attempt do display profundity. If war is politics by other means, then doing war is always done with politics. This whole statement is word salad nonsense.


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runakotoday at 6:14 AM

> I will remember from now on that you can compare war to Lebron playing in a championship game but not to him playing in a pickup game.

The stakes of a given situation matter to the disposition of the participants. Is this not obvious?

I'm really confused as to what your larger point is. Nobody disagrees that the US military can kill untold numbers of people and cause untold damage in Iran and the wider region. Was this the point you wanted to make? Yes, the US military is capable of killing everyone in the region, which would make the Strait "open" again.

> If war is politics by other means, then doing war is always done with politics.

The problem is doing so has not/does not appear to be on a path to achieve the stated political aims of the administration, inasmuch as they have been willing to articulate aims.

Anyway, you're being insulting and not making coherent points. Good evening/morning/afternoon.

iamnotheretoday at 4:14 PM

His statement about war and politics is a reference to Clausewitz, the famous military strategist that apparently you have not read nor have heard referenced, which is surprising given how often this quote comes up in military-political discussions, articles, and books.

(It’s ok, nobody in the administration has read him either. And before you accuse me of partisan hackery, the prior admin was just as incompetent.)