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zuzululutoday at 4:15 PM7 repliesview on HN

I do wonder why Gemini/Antigravity is so behind Codex and Claude. They have it all, TPUs, the model is okay, but then its scattered across a dozen product plans, names, limits. I feel like they are spread thin.

Gemini CLI was atrocious. It's now being shuttered to AG but its very hard to use due to the limiting usage constraints

Claude is better and Codex remains king of actual usage you can get.


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hnavtoday at 4:47 PM

Having amazing foundational technology that gets wrapped into subpar products has been Google's standard operating procedure for a long time. That being said, it's not clear that proprietary harnesses are going to be any kind of moat. For OAI and Ant, these are marketing vehicles that need to be good if the 1T+ valuation are to be justified given how easy it is to swap out inference.

fg137today at 4:39 PM

For OpenAI and Anthropic, their entire business is AI. If this thing does not work out, their company is over.

Google? They are shoving AI into every product for sure, but the company is going to do ok even if they immediately stop all AI work. Their revenue comes from ads, cloud etc, and AI doesn't directly translate to revenue much.

thallium205today at 4:30 PM

They are at least 6 months behind the other labs because they got a late start.

brazukadevtoday at 5:02 PM

There is a Google way to develop software and all engineers have to follow it, willing or not. There is no space for creativity and joy.

mythrwytoday at 4:50 PM

I've wondered the same thing but Gemini (free, just in the browser) helped me complete a GIS/radar app that Codex/GPT didn't seem informed enough to do. Really gave some excellent suggestions and I was impressed and feeding it into Codex we were off on a positive track again.

Then I tried to use Gemini for coding and it was like being back to GPT3 or something. Really bad. But on this topic at least it had possession or access to more knowledge than GPT.

eloranttoday at 4:29 PM

They simply have no incentive. If AI tanks there's no sweating it, the cash cow of Search will keep printing money and no one is the wiser.

setnonetoday at 4:20 PM

a mistery indeed

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