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ragequittahtoday at 8:07 AM1 replyview on HN

You're proving the idea that the science wins out though. The vaccine that caused problems in a vanishingly small amount of people was almost instantly recalled. I believe here in Canada we started giving it to people in February and stopped in March. The signal was so clear even though it was something like 1 in 50,000 people who had a problem.

We have giant populations of people who refused the vaccines. We also have a giant resurgence of measles now because those people are so large in number and so influential. Long covid is far more prevalent in those populations than anywhere else despite the seemingly blanket belief that covid was inconsequential among them.

The trials for the Pfizer vaccine came back as 95% effective. Not sure what paper you're holding saying blanket immunity for all time but it was probably political not scientific. It then did an insane pivot with omicron. Way too many mutations at once for any vaccine to accommodate.

The science is very broad and very clear on all of these matters. I feel bad if politicians or news agencies lied to you but my advice is to take an aggregate of every country / health authority in the entire world and disregard your own anecdotes / the Joe Rogans of the world. There's just no way that a conspiracy can be as far reaching as what you're implying.


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thrirnfjritoday at 8:47 AM

Countries had different rates of RNA vaccination (africa, east vs west in EU). There is correlation with long covid.

We could have a serious investigation, matching different batches (that vary in quality) to patients, and estimate side effects of each batch. But that was never done.

> The signal was so clear even though it was something like 1 in 50,000 people who had a problem.

Right, maybe the clear signal was "people end in hospital right after shot? Kind of hard to ignore.

> giant resurgence of measles now because those people are so large in number and so influential

Perhaps there are other factors? Like huge stream of new people who never had medical check?

> Long covid is far more prevalent in those populations than anywhere else

Some countries never had RNA vaccines, no long covid.

> insane pivot with omicron. Way too many mutations at once for any vaccine to accommodate.

I was told to get yet another shot, because old vaccine was effective against omicron. You sound like one of those vax deniers!