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Entanglement Builds Space-Time. Now "Magic" Gives It Gravity

102 pointsby rbanffytoday at 8:33 AM81 commentsview on HN

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nilkntoday at 2:30 PM

"Einstein cast gravity not as a force but as the geometric bending of space and time. In a popular analogy, the fabric of space-time is like the flat expanse of a mattress, and a massive object like a star is like a bowling ball sitting on top. The weight of the bowling ball compresses the mattress, forming a dimple — matter tells space-time how to curve.

In this analogy, a planet is like a smaller ball. If it rolls close enough to the bowling ball, its path will be altered by the dimple in the mattress — space-time tells matter how to move."

This analogy is wrong in a way that even people who've studied physics often don't realize.

On an everyday scale like the Earth orbiting the Sun, almost none of that gravitational interaction is from the bending of space. Far beyond 99% (actually, about 99.999999%) of it is from the bending of time.

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Terr_today at 9:08 AM

> a measure of quantumness known as “magic.”

This naming-proposal couldn't possibly cause any problems down the line...

> They had worked out a way of running software on a classical computer that would mimic a quantum task.

When it comes to using a regular computer to mimic (read: fake) the execution of an exotic program/API for nonexistnet future hardware, I highly recommend the humorously titled talk: "Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine Programming In Multiple Topologically Connected Quantum-Relativistic Parallel Timespaces... Made Easy!" [0][1]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzTjPx4NIiM

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpInOI4o2LY

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lioeterstoday at 9:49 AM

Charm, quark, colors, time crystals, holographs.. And now, magic. Don't worry Einstein, no spooky action at a distance here, it's just magical.

> The more non-Clifford gates you need to produce a quantum state, the more magical that state is. The group found that the particles were highly magical. ..They showed that magic gave space its springiness. Magic, in other words, is connected to space’s ability to bend.

At some point these physicists crossed over into a very specialized form of poetry, a game of language.

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greenbittoday at 11:40 AM

Greek 'anameixi' loosely means a mixture or a blending. The special states could be called 'anameixic', the property could be called 'anameixicity'.

Why am I trying to find a name for this? Otoh, why are so many physicists trying so hard to popularize their projects for the last 40 or 50 years? Oh .. I think I just answered my own question.

apothegmtoday at 10:47 AM

That is an incredibly unfortunate term to use for the phenomenon.

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zkmontoday at 2:40 PM

Quanta article are getting longer and longer. AI effect?

hirako2000today at 10:26 AM

In absolute, those are irrevocably pliable scientific facts.

Aboutplantstoday at 11:15 AM

Mathematicians shouldn’t be allowed to name anything, it’s beyond ridiculous

jacknewstoday at 11:57 AM

IMHO, as an analogy, matter is not 'a bowling-ball on a mattress', but more like a scrunched-up section of table-cloth. Tiny knots or whirlpools of space-time/quantum fields, different particles are different topologies of knot, albeit the nature of space-time is unclear and it may well be a projection.

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phs318utoday at 11:38 AM

So, when it comes to the quantum physics of dark matter, would this property be dark magic?

I’m so sorry. Couldn’t help myself.

greenbittoday at 11:33 AM

Calling something 'magic' is like an admission that you have no clue about what is going on. Seems to me, they do have some clue, namely that instead of codes with perfect isolation, there might be some advantage to studying ones that allow some blending. The resulting spaces may (or may not) lead to a better description of reality, but doing science means to peel back that mystery. So to go and promote this under the term 'magic' is disingenuous.

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sigmoid10today at 9:29 AM

>In holographic theories, physicists may have traced the pliability of space-time to its quantum roots

...ah yes holography again. Not to say that all these insights from it are completely worthless, but unless we actually find a holographic dual of our universe instead of AdS spaces (which are the opposite of our universe if anything), this whole field is starting to feel more like a jobs program for mathematicians out of new ideas.

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applfanboysbgontoday at 12:49 PM

>"magic"

Please no.

tetrisgmtoday at 9:45 AM

I gotta say every aspect of this headline reads like bullshit. Unfortunately

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