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onlyrealcuzzotoday at 3:14 PM2 repliesview on HN

None of these tools measure how effective they are...

It's a massive red flag to me when you could get decent data to see if your thing actually works, and they don't even attempt to...

Have the LLM use your tool, run it on several of the coding benchmarks. If you're stingy, run it on the ones that don't cost much.

Otherwise, I'm going to assume it doesn't actually work. If it did - Claude, Antigravity, Codex, Pi, or some major player would bundle tools like this into the CLI / harness.

AFAIK, none of the major players do. That's a sign to me these don't work in general.

I've tried building some tools specific to bug fixing. Intelligently feeding context massively helps smaller models. But, what I've found - surprisingly - is that a smaller, much better focused, including a lot of helpful data as well, has almost no impact on larger models compared to what they do by default.

You do save some tokens, though, which is what they're claiming - but not ~99%...


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no-name-heretoday at 4:49 PM

> I'm going to assume it doesn't actually work. If it did - Claude, Antigravity, Codex, Pi, or some major player would bundle tools like this into the CLI / harness.

VS Code launched it as a feature in their bundled AI functionality last month: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_121

doixtoday at 3:56 PM

It's too hard to define what "works" even means in this case. Look at the example savings output. A lot of it is kubectl output.

Your suggestion to using coding benchmarks doesn't really capture the whole picture. I haven't seen a benchmark using kubectl.

> AFAIK, none of the major players do. That's a sign to me these don't work in general.

It's a lose/lose for major players. If it works well, it will lower their revenue. Also there's a high risk it'll significantly worsen results for some people, even if it improves results for others.