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utopiahyesterday at 7:33 PM5 repliesview on HN

When none of the models, STOA or not, could answer any genuinely interesting question. All models could regurgitate was has been expressed before but nothing actually new was there, until explicitly asked for, and even then it required filtering through potentially so much noise it was practically not interesting anymore as it required all the knowledge to validate or invalidate the claims. That's when, few years ago, I realized "Oh shit... despite all the tremendous effort and resources, it's still not that useful.". Honestly this was NOT was I expected. Yet, it was an important realization.


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utopiahyesterday at 7:42 PM

Related but distinct, few years later I asked an acquaintance to ask a question to a model. I didn't want to bias the test so I ask them to ask whatever they wanted. They asked "What time is it in Sri Lanka?" which I thought was a funny question. I predicted it wouldn't work because it was asked to an offline model so I thought it wouldn't manage to get current data. Still, I didn't interfere and we watch the answer being provided. It was roughly factually correct information about Sri Lanka... but it did not give the correct time. Again that's a rather basic question a young child would easily get right. You need the current time with a known timezone, the time difference, basic arithmetic and voila, you have the correct answer with an explanation to verify. Here it didn't work and I was there trying to explain how to STOA open-source model which required thousands if not millions in resources, training time, researcher salaries, etc could not even handle that random basic question. Another "oh shit" moment, again, not the one I expected which is precisely why to me it was, and still is, interesting.

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Smaug123yesterday at 7:43 PM

A few years ago, as you say, this was true. Nowadays I guess you just have to bite the bullet that Erdős problems aren’t interesting.

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aspenmartinyesterday at 7:40 PM

Curious what your interesting questions were, you should be able to find them in your chat history.

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aapplebyyesterday at 7:38 PM

Are you sure you're asking the right questions?

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bigyabaiyesterday at 7:40 PM

What question?

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