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kettlezyesterday at 6:12 PM16 repliesview on HN

"Siri AI will not be available in E.U. until we figure out privacy"

Funny to hear that after they mentioned how seriously they are taking privacy every 37 seconds.


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NetOpWibbyyesterday at 6:28 PM

   Under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...
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peterspathyesterday at 6:31 PM

It’s the DMA regulation that forces Apple to give the same access as they have to other AI chat apps.

Once it leaves the device Apple does not know what those other ai chat apps will do with the gathered data.

> Siri AI is private by design and deeply integrated across Apple’s platforms using on-device processing and Private Cloud Compute, which extends the privacy and security of iPhone into the cloud. However, under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe.

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IMTDbyesterday at 6:18 PM

Privacy and EU regulation are two very different things.

robot_jesusyesterday at 6:20 PM

I agree it's a funny look, but my guess is that it comes down to the cross-border data transfers and non-EEA tech providers. So even if Apple has private cloud compute and is using Gemini models, there are probably a lot of legal hoops to jump through and/or European-based data centers to spin up?

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arpinumyesterday at 6:25 PM

This is more likely due to the digital markets act that requires them to open their platform to competitors. hence it only being restricted on phone and iPad.

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Schiendelmanyesterday at 6:22 PM

It seemed like it's available on macOS but not on iOS. That means it's not privacy related, it's something else.

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victorbjorklundyesterday at 6:32 PM

It’s not privacy. It’s competition issues with DMA.

antipaulyesterday at 7:19 PM

Umm, that's neither a direct quote, nor even a paraphrase.

This is due to EU's wider tech regulation "DMA"

And, in fact, it's due to DMA's mandate leaning _against_ privacy:

> under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

nicceyesterday at 6:30 PM

Meanwhile most companies and people have a competition in EU to submit all the data to Claude and ChatGPT.

theshrike79yesterday at 6:20 PM

EU wants them to open up the cloud models to any 3rd party.

How can Apple guarantee privacy then?

peterspathyesterday at 6:33 PM

Yipeee for stupid eu rules

cromkayesterday at 6:18 PM

Laughed at it, too. It's almost as if they admit the EU privacy legislation enforces ACTUAL privacy.

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paytonjjonesyesterday at 10:04 PM

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