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minimaxiryesterday at 6:41 PM4 repliesview on HN

I wonder how much of Siri AI is Apple-developed and how much of it is Google-developed as a result of Gemini. The a) search demos and b) image generation demos seem unlikely to have been done by Apple alone, the demos being closer to Google Search and Nano Banana respectively.


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thewebguydyesterday at 6:43 PM

It looks almost entirely like gemini. The images they showed are obviously nano banana, and the text responses are almost obviously Gemini (I say as a somewhat frequent Gemini user).

I'm sure they customized some of it, but this looks basically like Gemini integrated with iCloud instead of Google Workspace.

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testfrequencyyesterday at 7:01 PM

There was not a single thing they launched that I have not seen Gemini already showcase capability or existing feature wise

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madeofpalkyesterday at 7:14 PM

Is Siri any more or less than “just” an agentic harness such as OpenClaw? How much of what that harness does is up to the LLM or the harness itself?

In my mind the Gemini LLM defines the bounds of capability and capacity, but any actual functionality or usefulness (or lack of) comes from Apple’s Siri harness.

losvediryesterday at 6:46 PM

I was wondering the same. I have to imagine it's mostly Gemini, unless Apple has a big, secret, SotA foundation model no one has heard of? But if it is Gemini, how does that work with their Private Cloud thing? Are they able to load the Gemini weights into it?

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