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Gram Newton-Schulz: A Fast, Hardware-Aware Newton-Schulz Algorithm for Muon

24 pointsby jxmorris12last Tuesday at 4:58 AM4 commentsview on HN

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jnwatsontoday at 12:34 AM

Back in the elden days, I took a course called "Large Scale Scientific Computing". It was mostly about multiplying large matrices. I didn't think this was going to be remotely applicable to anything commercial.

Boy was I wrong.

cs702yesterday at 11:40 PM

A superior alternative to standard Muon and AdamW optimizers for training large models.

Fantastic work, instantly valuable, immediately usable.

A big THANK YOU to the authors:

Jack Zhang, Noah Amsel, Berlin Chen, and Tri Dao

ainchtoday at 12:13 AM

Tri Dao's lab must have saved countless watts with FlashAttention. Great to see them continuing to open-source massive efficiency gains.

akoboldfryingtoday at 12:04 AM

Only read the first section but this sounds really impressive -- up to 50% of up to 17% of training time when using the Muon optimiser, so up to around 7% of basically pure improvement with no downside.