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MarleTangibleyesterday at 11:03 AM5 repliesview on HN

I always saw it as a trust-chain and think that anyone is welcomed to create a root certificate and distribute it to whomever trusts them. Most simple services may not need TLS, but with the ISPs eavesdropping on our communication, a form of secure communication is required and the currently best solution we have requires a trust-chain to be built.


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happosaiyesterday at 6:35 PM

It is such a great improvement that ISPs cannot eavesdrop us anymore... only for everyone to terminate TLS at cloudflare so they (and thus US government) can now eavesdrop everyone.

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lesostepyesterday at 7:48 PM

The problem is that finding a root source of trust aren't easy this days. LE was neutral, now nobody is.

Russian government issued their new root certificate years ago.

Nobody trusted it enough to request a certificate from them or install it on their computers. Including almost all of the russian residents.

If Let's Encrypt enforces the rules, as written in pdf, a lot of people would lose a choice.

Frankly, even publishing a statement like that would make the scales of trust tip for some.

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Parodperyesterday at 2:30 PM

We could, and should, switch to DANE. Or else, switch to how X.509 was supposed to be used, with each country running a CA for their nationals.

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thaumasiotesyesterday at 5:17 PM

> I always saw it as a trust-chain and think that anyone is welcomed to create a root certificate and distribute it to whomever trusts them.

Note that phones already try to prevent you from using a certificate that you provide yourself.

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account42yesterday at 3:38 PM

Do we also need to put all our letters into strongboxes before we send them?

Maybe we should have solve the ISP snooping problem by making that illegal instead.

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