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redman25last Tuesday at 9:45 PM1 replyview on HN

Exactly, intelligence is limited by cost and physical constraints just as much as anything. That's the thing that seems to always be missing from the run-away singularity discussions, it's treated like a perpetual motion machine.


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zahlmanyesterday at 1:05 PM

Typical "runaway" scenarios I see described involve something like the AI designing a worm that it uses to propagate itself across the Internet, hijacking whatever CPU/GPU power it can find, and making itself more powerful in the process. Of course this depends on bandwidth, humans not finding a way to shut it down, etc. There indeed are physical constraints even on the transmission of data.

Some people seem to think that simply uttering these ideas on the Internet is harmful (in the "don't give it ideas!" way); but the MIRI types were expressing them pre-ChatGPT in an attempt to warn people, so there was really never any chance of keeping it out of the training data.

But it's also worth considering here just how awful AI security postures have been. The MIRI types used to speculate about how difficult it would be for AIs to social-engineer users into granting them irresponsible levels of agency. It turns out that they don't even have to try.