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ok_dadtoday at 1:24 AM5 repliesview on HN

Young people thought M$ was changing, the old folks knew it was just another cycle of embrace, extend, extinguish.


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tyretoday at 4:20 AM

Young people were… right?

VS Code is open source. (Cursor is built on it!)

GitHub didn’t embrace, extend, extinguish git. You can git push to a different company (e.g. Gitlab) and you’ve migrated. The biggest problems with GitHub are scaling and availability, not lock-in.

Microsoft today is nothing like it was 30 or 20 years ago.

Fifteen years ago we were writing HTML and JavaScript specifically for Internet Explorer. Edge is built on Chromium.

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pjmlptoday at 5:59 AM

Old folks are also aware that applies to every single big tech company that actually sponsors the FOSS tools many don't want to pay anything back, while expecting to be paid themselves.

Old folks also remember the days when it was possible to make a living out of selling software tools.

hnfongtoday at 6:23 AM

The ruthlessness of the Microsoft that we remember was probably due to influence from Bill Gates.

He is famous for hyper-competitiveness and strong desire to win at all costs.

Dylan16807today at 3:17 AM

Microsoft has been causing a lot of problems lately but I completely disagree that it fits the pattern of "embrace, extend, extinguish".

Forgeties79today at 6:42 AM

Remember when folks thought Phil Spencer was gonna right the Xbox ship lol