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triceratopstoday at 1:58 PM7 repliesview on HN

> Voting doesn't work

Disparaging democracy doesn't work. Saying shit like this is worse than not voting.

EDIT: Downvoted for defending democracy. I do love democracy :-D


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JumpCrisscrosstoday at 2:03 PM

> Disparaging democracy

The ancient Athenians knew that elections favored the rich. That’s why they incorporated selection by lot into their system. Our modern understanding of democracy has fetishized elections to the point that some voters might see hundreds of them in a year, including for positions that shouldn’t ever be elected (e.g. judges), while still having little to no actual civic power.

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boppo1today at 2:06 PM

Nah, voting doesn't work because to become a candidate necessarily requires backroom dealing at odds with the interests of common voters.

We need sortition.

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avaertoday at 2:02 PM

Since many people reading this probably don't know: voting is not the only, or even the original form of democracy.

Representatives in ancient democracies were selected by sortition, which is based on statistics, not popularity or money.

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ramon156today at 2:47 PM

Not doing anything is also not working. Denying it is worse than saying its broken. It's clear as day.

Key figures, wealth, etc. Shouldn't influence their power to this extend. The general public isn't silent, it's silenced.

rubzahtoday at 2:20 PM

Saying it seems to have become a taboo, probably because of the existential horror of it possibly being true.

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fullsharktoday at 2:18 PM

It's at best a weak check by the populace on two rival gangs of the ruling class. It's certainly not what its proponents claim it to be.

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catigulatoday at 1:59 PM

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