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sterlindyesterday at 10:00 PM1 replyview on HN

> The war crime laws were invented as a legal theater for victorious powers to persecute the losers after WW2 with a veneer of legality, for imperialist superpowers to bully the small third countries who refuse to play ball, not for something superpowers to actually abide by themselves

I recommend you watch Judgment at Nuremberg - the 1961 film, not the 2025 one (I've seen both.) the Nuremberg Trials were very much to punish the architects and perpetrators of the Holocaust for their atrocities. you can choose to be cynical, but consider: which "losers" were "persecuted?"

- the Doctors' Trial sentenced the doctors who murdered thousands of disabled Germany's own citizens in the Aktion T4 program.

- the Judges' Trial sentenced the Judges who enforced the Aryan racial purity laws, ordered the castration of "mental defectives" and sent falsely-accused Jews to their deaths.

- the Pohl Trial which sentenced the SS officers who ran the concentration camps and death camps.

sure, the US doesn't have perfectly clean hands, and the victor usually won't prosecute its own the way they prosecute the enemy, but I strongly disagree that the Hague was just an attempt to "persecute the losers." they were prosecuted, not persecuted, and they weren't prosecuted for "losing," they were prosecuted for their atrocities.

just because the Hague is unfair (some men never faced justice, since they were on "our" side) doesn't mean it was unjust (those who were convicted deserved it.)


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joe_mambayesterday at 10:16 PM

>I recommend you watch Judgment at Nuremberg - the 1961 film

Wait, you're actually judging historical events of Nazi Germany based on Hollywood movies written, directed and produced by jews[1], and taking them as unbiased ground truth? That would be like trusting the judge to your trial when he's the same family as the plaintiff. How about maybe listening to unbiased sources that didn't have skin in the game? Because otherwise I can recommend you plenty of Iranian movies explaining why they're innocent and Israel is to blame for their troubles, or plenty of speeches of Netanyahu saying how his military murdering Palestinian children is legitimate justice by the books.

The Nuremberg trials prosecutors actively denied, hid, and even manipulated and destroyed evidence that was going to work in favor for the plaintiffs, just to ensure they get the rope.[2]

Just use your brain for 3 seconds, there's no way a trial run, controlled and funded by the victors was going to be allowed to work against the victors and make them look bad on the international stage, same how no Hollywood movies made on this topic by jews were gonna be unbiased. It was a sham trail through and through, with 100% of the effort going on adding a layer of legitimacy to it while aiming for the same outcome.

It's the same as when you hear corrupt police departments or government institutions today say "we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong". And their corruption only gets unveiled when a higher power like a federal or international court gets involved. Except in the Nuremberg case there was no higher power other than the victors who had skin in the game.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_at_Nuremberg

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeGkvy_P5c

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