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WarmWashtoday at 1:50 PM5 repliesview on HN

They are all funded and owned by the same entity, the CCP, so it probably would be better to call them CCP models.

Edit: Downvoting something doesn't make it false.


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SubiculumCodetoday at 4:25 PM

For those that don't like calling them CCP models, may I remind you, the CCP won't let Chinese AI researchers out of the country any more without securing approval first[1].

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

jdw64today at 2:06 PM

I tend to agree with the comment in my reply thread about whether we really need to add biased modifiers to the essence of a good product. I think every national system in this world is flawed. And in this context, 'China or Chinese' is often used in a negative sense, like 'Made in China'. But KIMI is a good model, and I think the comment that pointed this out to me correctly identified my unconscious bias.

And even if the Chinese Communist Party provided funding, the result is still transparently released. So even if it is some kind of propaganda, I don't see what the problem is.

Is the monopolistic greed of American companies 'good', and China's greed 'bad'? I do have that question.

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antonvstoday at 6:55 PM

Do you believe there's some meaningful benefit to the American VC funding model in this case? It's not clear to me what you're trying to say or why you think it's an important distinction.

dcreatertoday at 1:59 PM

I've heard this claim before but I've never seen any evidence.

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well_ackshuallytoday at 1:59 PM

yes, yes, the spectre of communism, BYD is the CCP, Alibaba is the CCP, stealing your children and eating them for Mao, bla bla bla.

I have a feeling you'd be slightly salty at people saying "Google and Tesla are making CIA models"

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