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smooctoday at 7:44 AM3 repliesview on HN

This should be a red herring for Europe (and others using US models).

Every non-American company is now at a disadvantage against American companies. The implications can not be overstated.


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graemeptoday at 8:28 AM

Google Deepmind is headquartered in the UK and has R & D in multiple countries. How would the US ban non-nationals from using something that is largely developed outside the US by people who are not US nationals?

Mistral might be a bit behind but this might give them a lot more business.

Most of all, a lot more people will switch to Chinese models. They will catchup, soon enough.

I have not had much of a chance to try Fable, but it did not seem better than Opus for what I tried it out on. Maybe its better on bigger jobs/vibe coding type tasks which is not something I do anyway.

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sajithdilshantoday at 8:06 AM

It indeed is a wake up call. But at the same time the strong data protection laws, copyright and privacy laws make it extremely difficult for a European company to develop a frontier model. Activist lawyers can sue and drag startups for training their model on a news article and the legal expenses would be higher than the engineering costs.

ChatGPT was released 4 years ago and still out of 27 countries in EU, only Mistral based in France has a model closer to a frontiers and IMO EU has already lost the race and still trying to catch up to yesterday models.

dpe82today at 7:52 AM

As we learned with export restrictions on crypto in the 90s, that disadvantage will be short-lived and backfire in the long-run.