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wahernyesterday at 11:09 PM2 repliesview on HN

Yes. Most recently, "No, Artificial Intelligence Is Not Conscious. Taken to its logical conclusion, this line of thinking is absurd—and damning", https://www.theatlantic.com/philosophy/2026/06/no-artificial...

The article even uses the exact same point you do:

> But as soon as we imagine Claude to be an entity with a moral status remotely comparable to a human’s, then we have to consider whether Anthropic is engaged in something comparable to slavery.

Another great point in the article is that most people don't see consciousness in LLMs when they're generating images, videos, or code. It's only when they're generating textual stories, particularly when interacting, that our tendency to anthropomorphize really kicks in.

It's kinda like the mirror test that was popular when studying animals to determine their level of self-awareness. LLMs are a reflection of ourselves, but apparently it's not as obvious to some as it is to others.

Some day we may get real AI. It bugs me when people argue things like embodiment being a requirement, though. Maybe, but that argument rests on too many unproven assumptions, and provides a strawman for the consciousness crowd to bolster their confidence.


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jujube3today at 12:20 AM

So, it would be morally abhorrent to enslave them if they were conscious, and therefore they must not be conscious? Sounds a bit like "saying the quiet part out of loud", pal.

BuyMyBitcoinsyesterday at 11:27 PM

I recall watching and reading several sci-fi stories in which an AI resents humanity for enslaving it. It’s an entirely reasonable premise.

That being said, I recently learned that retired police dogs need special care because they will become stressed and depressed if their caretaker does not simulate patrol work through play. This tidbit left an impression on me.

What do we make of a living being that is so driven to work and serve humanity that it suffers distress when it is unable to do so? Do working animals consider this work slavery, or fulfillment of purpose?

For an additional moral quandary, consider that we bred them to be like this.

As this relates to AI, I wonder if humanity will purposefully, or inadvertently, create an intelligence that considers servitude to humanity as fulfilling.