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swarnietoday at 9:26 AM3 repliesview on HN

The exact same argument can be made for cars.

Doesn't stop the government wasting half my Saturday and stealing £100 every couple of years.

We should congratulate cyclist on becoming fully fledged (oppressed) road users.


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Machatoday at 10:13 AM

Cars are heavier, have longer stopping distances, poorer visibility and have speed measuring equipment installed.

20kph is not a difficult speed for an adult on a push bike on a flat surface, so we’re not just talking about ebikes where a mandatory speedometer could make sense

david-gputoday at 10:09 AM

Drivers kill and severely injure people at rates higher than all other violent crime combined.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240086517?hl=en-...

ndsipa_pomutoday at 11:34 AM

The issue should really be about kinetic energy and the likelihood of collisions.

With cycles (including e-bikes), the rider is exposed and is likely to get hurt during a collision and this provides a feedback loop so that experienced riders are likely to take care and be very attentive. Cars don't have this feedback loop and are also orders of magnitude heavier, so it's really a different situation.

It's bizarre to require a slower speed limit for a much lighter vehicle, when logic dictates that cars should have the much slower speed limit.

> We should congratulate cyclist on becoming fully fledged (oppressed) road users.

As a matter of record, the first modern roads were built specifically for and by cyclists: https://www.cyclinguk.org/cycle/roads-built-cars