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dghlsakjgtoday at 2:03 AM

I was an average-joe high school student back then.

People hated flash. Even non techies.

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miladyincontroltoday at 2:34 AM

The average person didnt really care what tech was involved, they dont romanticize software in the same way as tech inclined people do.

People hated it when apps were glitchy, when it wanted "constant" updates, or how they couldnt share a page because the entire site was some bloody flash applet.

marcus_holmestoday at 2:20 AM

> You're in the 0.001%. Your asks are arcane and orthogonal to most users of software, who just want their PC to do something neat and useful.

Right up until enshittification kicks in and suddenly everyone cares and there are shouts of destroying the evil techbros who are poisoning the minds of our youth to buy a new yacht.

Can you imagine the situation if Jobs hadn't killed Flash? Most of the commercial websites required a Flash blob to deliver full functionality even back then in the early 2000's. Adobe never even vaguely pretended to be the good guys, they would have enshittified as soon as they possibly could, as hard as they possibly could (as they have done with the rest of their software). The entire web would be held to ransom at this point.

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likeclockworktoday at 1:56 AM

Sure, but Adobe was never going to solve them.