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QwenGlazer9000today at 4:36 AM5 repliesview on HN

All the other comments in this thread talk about emacs instability when that hasn't been the case for me. I'm on doom emacs, update once in a while, and everything mostly just works other than some color scheme weirdness I had to fix.

I used to be on neovim, and that ecosystem compared to emacs feels like this image: https://i.imgflip.com/2pg2s7.jpg

Some of it is the maintainer shielding us from the breaking changes, but I also think the ecosystem is more slow moving than other editors which helps. The editor is older than most devs after all.


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arikrahmantoday at 5:50 AM

I find that Emacs is actually the first mover on prime technologies. Just look at gptel and org-mode. Nothing else really even comes close. The reason some odd names exist like yank and kill or kill chain is because Emacs was the first and didn't have anything else to use as reference.

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royal__today at 5:56 AM

Can you explain more what's wrong with the Neovim ecosystem? I just switched from Doom Emacs to Neovim and my impression of Neovim has been much better. (I get that Emacs has a much more powerful backbone, I just realized that I didn't really need that power; I just want a good text editor)

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Alien1Beingtoday at 6:18 AM

I use both Emacs ( have used it for decades ) and began using Neovim recently.

Neovim seems fairly reasonable. Using the LazyVim distribution of Neovim and it works quite well for my purposes.

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quertyrecord74today at 11:07 AM

Use borg package. You'll get rock solid emacs. Worth the effort.

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shevy-javatoday at 4:44 AM

The irony is that the vim camp can use just the same "argument" here about emacs. So that is a weird comparison to want to make here.

> The editor is older than most devs after all.

Well, being old does not automatically mean better. Peak human physical performance typically happens, with some exceptions (Justin Gatlin, if we ignore the use of enhancement drugs) in younger years; see Usain Bolt's fastest time achieved when he was young (23 years, in 2009). For mental tasks it is not so limited, but for physical peaks it is often in the younger years. For some software projects it also is the case that older age means more code, which in turn automatically mean smore bugs, all other things being equal. I am not necessarily questioning as to whether emacs has more bugs; my point is that the comparison/analogy does not work as means of quality assessment.

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