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salawatyesterday at 9:43 PM2 repliesview on HN

KYC just for a phone number opens the door for societal ostracization and essentially blacklisting of people from infrastructure. This is on par with being unable to open a bank account if the capability is matured. I'd advise that you think long and hard about the consequences of this system being applied against you maliciously before signing on the dotted line.


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Xirdusyesterday at 11:57 PM

There already are laws that would prevent the exact thing you're talking about. A requirement to provide name and address would change absolutely nothing. And if legal protections are not enough for you then what are we even talking about? Your phone carrier could disable all your lines this instant with a few clicks if they wanted to; the technical capability is already there. They also have your name and address from listening to phone calls and triangulating cell towers - though realistically they didn't need to do it because you already gave them your details knowingly and willingly as part of starting the service, didn't you?

I'd advise that you think long and hard about the consequences of the current system before saying the alternative is worse.

mschuster91yesterday at 10:10 PM

> KYC just for a phone number opens the door for societal ostracization and essentially blacklisting of people from infrastructure.

We have that in Europe and the world has not fallen apart. On top of that, we don't have even close to the scale of problems with scammers that the US has. I won't deny we don't have scammers because we absolutely have them, but they are far from the scourge they are in the US.

> This is on par with being unable to open a bank account if the capability is matured.

The secret is... we have constitutionally protected rights. Unless you do not pay your bills, your phone line will not get disconnected. And same for bank accounts - every European has the right to a basic banking account, even if you are a target of foreign sanctions [1].

[1] https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/konto-eugh-usa-sank...