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combyn8toryesterday at 9:48 PM1 replyview on HN

> VPNs do not allow you to connect two devices directly, they have to go through the VPN

Not true. Depends on the VPN protocol.


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TalkingCodeMonktoday at 12:29 AM

It sounds like the key difference people are missing is that VPN's operate at the network layer, so they require separate integrations for every device os/arch and network stack, where Iroh is embedded at the application layer, so any app can be a P2P VPN client without worrying about device network integrations.

Sounds great to me, and would be a boon for self-hosting and decentralization in general, which is sorely needed considering how captured, authoritarian, and anti civil liberties every democracy is becoming. If I'm not mistaken, I believe I read a tailscale blog about them envisioning application layer embedding at some point as well.