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throw391912321yesterday at 10:26 PM3 repliesview on HN

I've seen this idea float around r/singularity and r/collapse for years and it's probably responsible for a horrifying amount of suicides at this point.

It's not even that good of an argument. It makes some incredibly flimsy assumptions; reddit marxist priors of labor oppression being an inescapable invariant across all of human history, ultra-compliant superintelligences, a perfectly unitary elite without any desire to defect, all other societal variables staying the same somehow, etc.. It only exists because of upvote algorithms amplifying emotional action-suppressing doomer content. Really not that different from other hostile memes like QAnon.

I would really like if people stopped spreading this anti-agency garbage and actually made an effort to advocate for policy. It's something I have to give Luke Drago some points for, he actually cares about the problem rather than just saying the inevitable eternal stratification hypersuffering anti-singularity is inevitable and implying that death is preferable.


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smallmancontrovyesterday at 10:32 PM

All workable policy paths involve taxing capital and you're gonna call that Marxist even though it isn't, so we're at an impasse.

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jplusequaltyesterday at 10:49 PM

>reddit marxist priors of labor oppression being an inescapable invariant across all of human history

Not that I agree with all of Marx's ideas, but I think this is one of his less controversial ideas. There has always been a class struggle between business owners and workers, and there probably always will be.

>anti-agency garbage and actually made an effort to advocate for policy

An increasing amount of US citizens have little to no trust in our government to actually come up with a viable solution that helps the people in a world where AI automation is happening across multiple sectors at once.

You want to address the paranoia people feel? You have to also address that lack of trust in our government. That's a tall order.

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confidantlakeyesterday at 10:57 PM

It isn't inevitable but it is where we are heading. We are basically in the early 1930s. Even fighting against it and winning is going to be extremely ugly. And that is the most optimistic scenario.