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winocmyesterday at 11:58 PM4 repliesview on HN

On the note of PG&E, my electric bill averages to about $750 despite only running an air conditioner, several device chargers, a router, some lights and a fridge...

Thanks PG&E.


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saltcuredtoday at 1:35 AM

Are these "device chargers" for BEVs like electric submarines or something? ;-)

In the broader SF Bay Area, our recent PG&E bills for a 50 year old single-family home without air-conditioning is under $150/mo, with a couple fridges, electric clothes dryer, and a half-dozen laptop class computers. That's averaging about 8-9 kWh per day (250-280 kWh/month).

Last winter, our bill ramped up to over $400/mo for a few months, due to heating with natural gas.

3eb7988a1663today at 12:40 AM

How many kWh monthly?

Let's say your overall rate is $0.50/kWh, that would put you at 1500kWh per month. Which is....high. Even if your rate were $1/kWh, 750kWh would be a decent amount of juice for a region with an overall mild climate.

The EIA[0] says the typical annual electricity consumption for homes in "the West" (ie not just California) is 8525kWh/year, or 710kWh/month.

[0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/use-of-energy/electricit...

naturalmovementtoday at 12:13 AM

No wonder people are fleeing California in droves. There is absolutely no justification for a bill that high other than malfeasance or gross mismanagement. That is straight-up theft of your money.

For comparison, I have double that plus electric appliances and a home-lab with 6 rack servers that run 24/7 and my bill rarely tops $175 in the dead of summer. And I like the thermostat cold.

If you live in a duplex or condo I would consider if your meter is miswired (with your neighbor's meter daisy-chained to yours) and you are being double-billed. It is more common than you think and often goes undiscovered for years.

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namuoltoday at 12:37 AM

What rates are you being charged?

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