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Terr_yesterday at 4:24 PM3 repliesview on HN

> There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation.

One of the big companies, Meta, already decided to go ahead and grab terabytes of pirated books to feed their LLM. [0]

Therefore I would not give them (or similar entities) the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they might use text that customers "gave" them under some unreadably-favorable terms of service.

With PII, the pirated-books example is doubly-relevant, because the accusation of "this output is reproducing my copyright work" is very similar to "this output is revealing my private data". The fuzzy black-box nature of the algorithms offers ways to stymie enforcement, arguing that victims or regulators cannot conclusively prove a chain of cause with zero coincidences.

[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/libge...


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kyle-rbyesterday at 7:23 PM

Is the reputational risk of pirating terabytes of books worse than the reputational risk of shredding (destructively scanning) millions of books?

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

pastor_williamsyesterday at 4:48 PM

Fair enough. I don't use Facebook at all because I don't respect or trust the company or it's mission. I do use Gemini and Claude though.

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gowldyesterday at 4:41 PM

More specifically, the CEO said that users are "dumb f*cks" for submitting data to Facebook, the predecessor of Meta.