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smashedyesterday at 10:26 PM12 repliesview on HN

If these numbers are right, it's actually not that bad. Cut r&d costs and they are mostly profitable.


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cmiles8yesterday at 10:58 PM

Yes if you ignore all the reasons why they’re horribly unprofitable, they’re profitable.

R&D costs are hurting profit side and while you can cut that one just becomes irrelevant overnight in this space if you do, hence the problem.

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darth_avocadoyesterday at 10:48 PM

So you’re saying if you cut all the cost centers a company would only have profit centers? If you ignore all the losses you’ll only have profits?

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bijowo1676yesterday at 11:00 PM

OpenAI can easily cut R&D costs by replacing engineers with Claude Code

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vjsrinivasyesterday at 10:30 PM

Cut down on the one thing they need to keep themselves relevant in this space?

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mjamesaustinyesterday at 11:46 PM

Actually reduce R&D to ZERO and they are still losing money.

4d4myesterday at 10:54 PM

While you cant discount 100% R&D they are close, agreed

deepsunyesterday at 10:45 PM

I bet any FAANG spend is mostly R&D.

If it's not materials, not energy or taxes, not manufacturing, not licensing or rental fees, then I can only think of R&D.

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Gigachadyesterday at 10:50 PM

If they cut down on R&D they will be no better than the open source models you can run at cost yourself.

matt-pyesterday at 10:45 PM

Even if they keep the R&D costs, more efficient inference and 0 Marketing spend also gets you there. Inference is honestly super inefficient at this point, we can do far better than GPUs, push utilisation up, build more efficient datacentres.

fsutsyesterday at 11:03 PM

Numbers are probably not right as classifying everything aa r&d is going to the temptation

throwaway613746today at 1:36 AM

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