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alchemismyesterday at 4:30 AM4 repliesview on HN

Yes, make the teachers on $25-35K annual salaries do /more/ work for no extra money. I'm sure that will fix education.


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em500yesterday at 6:06 AM

Just to be accurate, median annual salary is over $62k accross the US for kindergarten and elementary school teachers, with California nearing 100k.

[1] https://www.onetonline.org/link/localwages/25-2021.00?st=CA

qserayesterday at 5:27 AM

I am conflicted on this. One part of me think that they deserve a lot more compensation. But I am not really sure if that should be in the form of a salary rise.

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ben_wyesterday at 9:20 AM

That's a straw man.

That pay range is roughly what teachers get in former-USSR/Warsaw Pact eastern Europe, and in those countries it's a comfortable income.

Also, going back to what they did a few years ago isn't "more work". May actually be less, given how often people look at AI output, roll their eyes, and say "ugh, slop".

Also also, questions of pay are obviously after society decides what it wants the role of a teacher to be and finds out how much it needs to spend to hire enough people who will do whatever that job turns out to be.

duduijskkzzyesterday at 7:08 AM

While a bit hyperbolic this is a major issue.

“Workload” has been a constant argument for just about any tech product we acquired at school. I’m very conflicted about this issue to be honest. I’m a member of one of those parent management boards type things, not sure what’s it called in English.

One the one hand I know how busy teachers are, on the other I also know how they never work to 5PM have twice my vacation days, while somehow never being able to meet to talk about issues. We get one ten minute session every few months at best.

If you put pressure on them they call in sick for weeks and good luck finding a replacement. I’m deeply worried that if teaching as a whole doesn’t get it together we will slowly be forced to use AI for everything because of lack of alternatives.