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Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites

160 pointsby cauenapieryesterday at 11:55 AM83 commentsview on HN

https://cauenapier.com/blog/townsquare_release/

https://cauenapier.com/blog/townsquare/


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purple-leafytoday at 3:32 AM

Moderation moderation moderation . It’s a big problem

I have similar moderation concerns in my browser game/engine but I only ban offensive slurs not swears, but I give no visual affordance that the word is not allowed

The only surface where players see the input content is in a share card, and if they finish a game and get to the share card they will find the offensive word has been REDACTED lol

So it’s a long feedback loop just to find out your hijinks lead nowhere

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lambdaonetoday at 12:43 AM

I just took a look at the page's own 'town square'. At the moment, it's largely full of people saying offensive things for the sake of it.

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anirbanheretoday at 8:28 AM

This is so cool, gonna add this to my game website. This can easily help to get me multiplayer matching in the game.

swiftcodertoday at 6:52 AM

Love it, also love that there's one HN visitor just hanging out typing "dick and balls" over and over again. That's unmoderated anonymous public squares for you

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freakynittoday at 3:08 AM

I made something similar last year: A p2p chat popup (that sits on bottom right of the page as a bubble) that allows all visitors to chat with each other. It had simple keyword based moderation in-built (can be easily bypassed though).

Was planning to add github oauth to get a known identity and persistent messaging so visitors can chat with each other across sites.

Instead of a webmaster adding script to their site, it was a browser extension.

The intent was two folds:

1. Get to know other people having similar interests,

2. Try something on the lines of a decentralized chat/messaging system.

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thatguysaguytoday at 4:40 AM

The contrast between the example screenshots and the standard internet behavior in the live demo is hilarious

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afpxtoday at 2:29 AM

There was a thing from the 90s kind of like this called Third Voice. It was a cool idea, but I remember there being a lot of backlash from brands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Voice

thih9today at 4:59 AM

> A problem repeatedly occurred on https://cauenapier.com/

People are flooding the channel with messages, causing the widget to use too many resources on ios; and the website is being endlessly reloaded.

Any idea how to fix this? Bonus points for user friendly non technical solutions, ie is there a way to design an online social space where people want to collaborate and their first thought isn’t trolling?

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pistoriusptoday at 6:58 AM

Built something like this for the v1.0 launch of RedwoodSDK in March; but it's a popularity graph (like the time scrubber on YouTube). I figured that it could be useful to myself, and others, to aggregate the information that people find most useful.

https://rwsdk.com

figberttoday at 4:03 AM

Matt Webb made a version of this (and wrote about it) a while back—Cursor Party: https://interconnected.org/home/2024/09/05/cursor-party

I contemplated implementing it on my site for a while but decided I didn’t want to add the JavaScript. Still find it a really cute concept.

dawietoday at 4:28 AM

I love the idea, but it’s a real shame how people are using it. I wonder if AI can moderate it for offensiveness and spam prevention

monkeymeisteryesterday at 11:59 PM

Neat idea! It's simple but very effective - and I really enjoy the detail of the benches and the tree. Very nice.

I wouldn't add it to any of my sites due to the unmoderated nature of it - seeing some fairly unsavory things in your demo - but that's just a little tweak, I'm sure!

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simondanerdtoday at 2:53 AM

Love the idea. Could use some filters and stale (sleeping) clients could get removed quicker.

Also, it seemed to be disconnecting quite often, maybe a hug of death thing.

aetherspawntoday at 4:11 AM

Make a MapleStory-like one where each website can design their own room, and you can kill mobs and bosses and stuff. It would be neat if the characters and items persisted between.

Edit: a super smash brothers-like would be fun too. Maybe the page itself could be the platforms.

hallman76today at 2:22 AM

I've always wondered if we could find a way to add content website's content without it turning into a shitshow. MLS listings / Zillow is an interesting use-case. A realtor might describe something as "sun-filled" but omit that the home is next to a 24/7 dump truck repair warehouse.

loloquwowndueoyesterday at 11:55 PM

> NOTE: This project has been mostly vibe-coded

I deeply appreciate the honesty here. I’ll pass based on the vibecodedness of it but perhaps it won’t be a dealbreaker for others.

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tonyricetoday at 4:15 AM

rather interesting, except the spamming of the inappropriate messages.

zdc1today at 3:45 AM

This was actually a lot of fun. Not as much trolling as I anticipated. Surprising amount of normal chit chat.

oraziorillotoday at 12:49 AM

I love the idea! The next step is to add role play games in town squares.

patcontoday at 1:11 AM

I've been playing with presence too...! I def am thinking about using it more for real-time motion communication (which is largely missing from web) rather than text (which is very overrepresented, and where most moderation comes in).

I was toying with the idea of making a little crowd representation sticky at the bottom, like watching a screen together :)

Regardless, I love concepts like this. Thanks!

Procrastestoday at 3:20 AM

This is great! Thank you for sharing it. Fun to use and already customizable.

msafi04today at 7:13 AM

I like the idea! congrats!

ameontoday at 3:24 AM

this is a very clever concept. I'll keep it in mind for the future - when my app site has persistent amount of visitors. Are there some rules/settings for stop words to prevent some types of abuse? Or is it planned?

ArcaneMoosetoday at 2:32 AM

Really cool but should limit # of people shown when there are too many. Currently it gets really laggy

VaradD09today at 7:14 AM

Looks good!

zhxiaoliangtoday at 2:01 AM

I enjoyed the design.

iJohnDoetoday at 6:39 AM

This is actually really cool. We’ve needed this concept everywhere in technology. Something like this would have prevented the isolation and loneliness technology and the internet has created.

I don’t know all the answers, but joining people together, and reminders there are real people still there as we’ve moved from the physical world to the virtual world is an important part of the progression. In 50-100 years we will either have this epiphany or we will fail miserably.

vitorbaptistaayesterday at 11:45 PM

This is amazing! Congratulations on the launch. Repository link somewhere?

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mirkofrtoday at 1:49 AM

Maybe adding rooms will be a good move

winddudetoday at 2:40 AM

interesting. i'm appearing as a grey guy not the orange guy like your blog says

jedbergtoday at 5:24 AM

In the "this is why we can't have nice things" category, the first thing I saw was someone calling themselves "dick and balls". :(

amatechatoday at 1:20 AM

Oh what the heck? That's super cool! Awesome idea. Possible future enhancement: some basic day/night (or even weather?) design elements that match the timezone of the person whose site it is? Still, doesn't even need it, it's really cool as-is!

I could see it being used as some avenue for saying toxic stuff, so I'm suddenly feeling like the only allowed actions should be ones that can never be harmful (like text interactions are just choosing from a pre-set list)..

blooalientoday at 4:52 AM

Neat idea, but there seems to be zero defense against spammer scum. One jerk with a bot script seems able to make it totally useless for everyone else there.

ljcocotoday at 5:11 AM

cool idea!

lellowtoday at 12:28 AM

haha nice project! I stayed there for a couple of minutes and had such a good time!

mkltoday at 12:40 AM

Not really a square if it's 1D - everyone ends up on top of each other.

cyanydeezyesterday at 11:59 PM

would make more sense with webrtc.

sourcegriftyesterday at 11:47 PM

First saw this on lobste.rs . Great idea, perhaps allow for a little customisation? I'd like minimal animation, just a counter of present people and a green dot that vibrates when someone is typing. Clicking either opens a chat box with last 20 minutes.

siriuslvtoday at 7:29 AM

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melvinczykyesterday at 11:57 PM

I like the idea of this like a town square for websites. Nice job