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Big Tech is borrowing like never before

50 pointsby krupantoday at 1:49 PM46 commentsview on HN

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ElProlactintoday at 5:04 PM

The NVIDIA case is such a strange example to use to make the argument the author is trying to make.

NVIDIA raised $25 billion and had $85 billion in orders. Because of the demand, it was able to upsize its offering and issue bonds in maturities ranging from 2 to 30 years at quite favorable interest rates. The amount raised is a quarter of a year's free cash flow and the spread tightened during the book building process, so bond investors obviously aren't on the same page as the author.

You really can't make a bearish argument about the amounts being raised without putting the numbers in perspective. Yes, the issuances are big, but the equity and cashflows are also big, so the amounts being raised in the bond market don't really align to the author's skepticism when it comes to NVIDIA, Google, Meta.

The author would have a stronger case with Oracle but that alone wouldn't support the "Big Tech" story line.

Edit: $25 billion is a quarter's worth of free cash flow for NVIDIA, not half a year's as I originally stated.

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dmoytoday at 4:57 PM

$500B is a lot of debt, it's comparable to the three largest car companies' debt.

It's still not super huge compared to the amount of debt in other industries, but I guess the thought is it's riskier?

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xnxtoday at 4:15 PM

Smart to borrow when money is cheap if you think you can do something more profitable with it.

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0xcafefoodtoday at 5:05 PM

https://www.inc.com/fast-company-2/oracle-ai-boom-hidden-deb... goes into more detail about this same issue.

dgellowtoday at 4:07 PM

Full title: "Big Tech is borrowing like never before and the Fed just made that a lot more expensive"

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carterschonwaldtoday at 4:26 PM

“sit with” is way over used lately

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krupantoday at 5:09 PM

And now SpaceX, who is not at all in the same financial situation as Nvidia, wants to borrow money too:

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/spacex-banker...

smrtinserttoday at 4:35 PM

Is it me? I feel like we are entering an era where it has become possible for one of the big companies to fail.

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Mistletoetoday at 4:32 PM

A good read when X is "borrowing like never before".

https://pivotal.substack.com/p/minsky-moments-in-venture-cap...

greenoracle9today at 2:12 PM

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