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DiabloD3today at 6:55 AM2 repliesview on HN

I don't get the point of this.

The world is trying to make computers faster and more accessible, more web UI slop isn't going to help that. Dumping Javascript entirely is the first step on that road.


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flohofwoetoday at 11:11 AM

You should try the last few Xcode versions some time. As far as I'm aware there's not a single line of Javascript in it, and all UI is 'native' (whatever that means these days), and the whole experience is such a janky and laggy mess that even VSCode feels slick.

It's trivial to write slow UI application in any tech stack, and just being 'native' really means nothing nowadays.

vinkelhaketoday at 7:01 AM

I've seen variants of this comment for many years. The alternative to "web UI slop" would presumably be one of the many native toolkits.

I see it in a different way. The fact that "web UI slop" has managed to make great inroads on the desktop is an indictment of the state of native toolkits. If you think it's a problem that desktop apps are being written with web toolkits, the solution for that isn't to shame (as the term "web UI slop" clearly tries to do), but rather to figure out how to improve the native toolkits.

The opportunity to improve those toolkits was always there, and the ball was dropped.

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