I will die on the hill that Java was a good language, and had the potential to leapfrog us from where we are by at least a decade.

But it got hobbled by the awful, awful enterprise style culture, cultural misunderstanding of OOP (especially inheritance), and corporation shenanigans (fucking oracle).

Java would be a killer platform if they shipped built-in, tauri-like, UI.

At this point I think that would be a more sane outcome than whatever it is we have right now.

The Revenge of Javagator!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19837817