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brightballtoday at 2:21 PM6 repliesview on HN

39 trillion in debt with no Congressional stomach for...

- spending cuts

- stopping fraud

- figuring out how the net worth of people in Congress increases from hundreds of thousands of dollars to 10s or 100s of millions of dollars

- addressing wasteful and ineffective programs

Given those issues, the only solution will be inflation. The circling the drain moment will hit with the associated welfare programs get a direct staple to inflation itself, so we will spend more to combat inflation, causing more inflation faster.

It's not going to be fun.


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bhoustontoday at 2:45 PM

Also please add as an option: raise taxes on the wealthy individuals and corporations back.

https://inequality.org/article/11-charts-tax-wealthy-corpora...

This is really ambiguous:

"- stopping fraud"

And can mean many things. On the right, it often means Somali daycares, on the left it means the underfunding of the IRS so that it doesn't do audits of rich people.

I find this to be mostly a distraction:

"- figuring out how the net worth of people in Congress increases from hundreds of thousands of dollars to 10s or 100s of millions of dollars"

We should ban stock trading by members of the government, the Ro Khanna bill, but while it can be a source of corruption, it isn't a major source of inequality in the US.

This is unclear, can you be more specific as it has different answers based on one's partisan leanings:

"- addressing wasteful and ineffective programs"

I think a lot of the distortion of US policy towards the rich is a result of Citizens United and similar unrestrained lobbying funds.

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enragedcactitoday at 2:58 PM

> - stopping fraud / - addressing wasteful and ineffective programs

Good to know that this will be an evergreen argument despite an extremely well-supported project to do just that taking place in the last two years with nothing to show for itself other than hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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brightballtoday at 6:03 PM

EDIT: I see several comments suggesting that there is nothing left to cut. I'm not sure how anyone squares that perspective with this federal budget growth chart.

The federal budget over time...

2026 - $7.5 trillion

2020 - $4.8 trillion

2015 - $3.9 trillion

2010 - $3.7 trillion

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGEXPND

We do not have a tax problem, we have a spending problem. There's no reason that the US federal government shouldn't be able to operate on a budget equivalent of about $4 trillion which was just about the average from 2010-2020. There seems to be quite a lot available to cut.

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conductrtoday at 2:44 PM

This ball is already in motion IMO. Inflation numbers aren’t even believable and It’s already not fun.

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rawgabbittoday at 3:04 PM

From what I observe from fraud and corruption witch-hunts, they are nothing more than that. The real fraud is that government that is supposed to serve the people who elected it serves everyone else first.

toomuchtodotoday at 2:48 PM

There is nothing left (edit: discretionary) to cut, and there is no material fraud. Taxes must go up. Only the top 40% of Americans have any income or wealth to tax (bottom 60% of Americans have no federal tax liability). Or, as you mention, we monetize the debt, print dollars, and burn up the currency value.

https://usafacts.org/government-spending/

https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-debt-does-the-us-have/...

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