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Nearly half of LG smart TV apps contain residential proxy SDKs

201 pointsby microcodeyesterday at 8:48 PM139 commentsview on HN

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lbotosyesterday at 10:55 PM

I'll get on my high horse and say you can get solid "DID/Commercial" TVs for not that much more: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1788343-REG/samsung_q...

I got this a few months ago -- 4k, solid brightness, and ok color.

Is it the OMG BEST? no. But I Disabled wifi, and even the channel display.

I use it with an apple TV with CEC on the TV -- I turn on the apple tv, TV turns on straight to apple interface. I turn off from the apple remote, TV turns off.

It's effectively "an apple TV" -- I'm happy.

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rustcleaneryesterday at 10:54 PM

Never ever connect your "Smart"-TV to your network, or if you have an incurable impulse to then make sure it's on a firewalled gateway-less VLAN. Take the money you save buying the thing (compared to what a profitable "dumb" version would cost) and buy a surplus corporate mini-workstation system, and slap LibreELEC/Kodi or whatever on it, and use that device as your "smart" device. No good for you can ever come from bringing the TV onto the internet... ever!

(Also: never paypig, never subscribe!)

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andaiyesterday at 10:02 PM

I've always have a deep, instinctive revulsion for smart TVs, but every year I read of some new mandmade horrors beyond comprehension, and it escalates by a few more points.

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cube2222yesterday at 10:05 PM

I think it’s worth emphasizing that based on the article, those are third party apps, not first party LG apps.

Based on the headline I thought it’s the built-in apps.

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hnburnsytoday at 2:08 AM

TV never connected to internet, streaming box, and streaming box on its own isolated vlan (or guest network)

HDBaseTyesterday at 11:08 PM

"Publishes with the most proxy flagged apps"

1. Desoline (based in Netanya (Israel)

2. Bright Data (based in Israel)

Interesting.

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gruezyesterday at 10:06 PM

This turned out to be more ethical than I thought. I'd thought there wasn't any consent at all, or the actual mention of proxying was buried in a 20 page EULA.

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h4kunamatatoday at 1:17 AM

I have a 2018 Samsung QLED SmartTV, I use Pihole to block data collection and since it has Google DNS hardcoded in it, I use OPNSense Firewall rules to enforce any DNS request to Pihole.

My TV has only one AD that no longer shows for years now, LG is ADs all over the place. My home setup allows me to have a smartTV without compromises it.

Since it runs TizenOS, I can use my Linux PC to install remove apps from it like installing Jellyfin App so I do not depend on Samsung releasing it to the app store.

201984yesterday at 10:02 PM

This needs to be illegal.

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TurdF3rgusonyesterday at 10:29 PM

It's not Smart TV apps specifically, it's all free apps. They have to monetize those somehow, don't they? And you get upset when you see ads, don't you?

Basically it's either this or pay for your apps.

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lukaxyesterday at 10:08 PM

Well, that's how data for training LLMs is scraped.

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cullenkingyesterday at 11:51 PM

I just implemented bot and crawler detection as well as ASN based blocking for our website, because I’ve seen a massive rise in scraping coming from VPNs and other networks that mix legit and illegitimate traffic to our service. My theory is that small companies are scraping the shit out of everything and selling results to llm creators. It’s going to be interesting to see this expand into residential internet providers through holes like this… wild new world!

ctippettyesterday at 11:09 PM

I absolutely adore my 2018 jailbroken LG OLED, although it pains me that everything I love about this TV are features the manufacturer actively discourages and wishes I never had access to.

NordStreamYachttoday at 1:05 AM

I have my smart tv on a separate router and it's powered off most of the time. An accident of wiring.

xnxyesterday at 11:06 PM

What portion of Fox's acquisition thesis for Roku was activating residential proxies (distributed AI crawling!) across all the units?

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throwawa14223yesterday at 11:19 PM

So is there a residential proxy blacklist I can run on my firewall? Any action I can take as an admin to put a stop to this?

captn3m0yesterday at 10:25 PM

Has anyone reversed their SDKs to run a swarm that captures enough traffic to see what requests are actually getting made?

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dupontcyborgyesterday at 10:56 PM

this is a way smaller deal than acr. i personally don’t connect my smart tv to my network and use an apple tv instead

whalesaladyesterday at 11:43 PM

I have a few LG OLED tv's. I do not ever connect them to the internet - I just treat them as dumb hdmi/dp displays. One is driven by an Apple TV, the other is connected to a Linux gaming pc. Haven't had any issues at all.

ortusduxyesterday at 10:30 PM

Maybe Valve will make a TV next

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cjyesterday at 10:00 PM

I imagine most smart TVs don't support multitasking or apps staying alive in the background, hopefully?

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doublerabbityesterday at 10:21 PM

Walked past a TV and it was advertising a security guard.

Why does a TV need security software?

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wmfyesterday at 10:59 PM

The concept of consent-based privacy has completely failed, first with GDPR then this.

refulgentisyesterday at 10:03 PM

12 minute article.

70% AI.

The only content not flagged?

Copy and pasted PR comments.

Invisible Unicode characters, triads, unnecessary markdown.

Good work, obviated by bloviating. Readers dropping off near-instantly.

A company leaving a slop trail behind its wake.

AI DDOSing should be shameful.

https://www.folklore.org/Saving_Lives.html

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knollimaryesterday at 9:54 PM

This feels straight out of Silicon Valley (show)

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pocksuppetyesterday at 10:29 PM

Good. Fuck Cloudflare and other internet gatekeepers. Confuse their signal as much as possible.

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nekusaryesterday at 10:39 PM

LOL I posted a few days ago with bullshit from LG smart TVs.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48618246

I still do not know how the damned thing got internet.