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Manuel_Dyesterday at 9:08 PM6 repliesview on HN

To the contrary, little of what Flock does would be restricted by the 4th amendment. The cameras are in public, and neither the government nor individual citizens need authorization to film people in public.

Many Flock cameras are also privately owned, too.


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reactordevyesterday at 9:10 PM

All flock cameras are privately owned, by flock. They install them at a charge per the jurisdiction that orders them and pays the subscription costs… those subscription fees allow Mr Local Law Abuser to lookup any license plate it has read, when, where, with a picture of the vehicle.

https://deflock.org

You’d be surprised how many there are.

hilariouslyyesterday at 9:15 PM

https://www.wired.com/story/carpenter-v-united-states-suprem... https://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-jones There has been plenty of past rulings that indicate long term collection of data is not something that the fourth amendment had baked in.

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devindotcomyesterday at 9:46 PM

it's not about filming in public. it's about systematic data collection by law enforcement, using private infrastructure present by its nature in public. that's why the Carpenter decision is relevant.

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mingus88yesterday at 9:43 PM

The year is 2026 and the 4th amendment only means what the currently sitting justices say that it means, and the executive branch was literally given a pass to violate any law on the books that they want.

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qmryesterday at 9:15 PM

Wrong. See Carpenter v US.

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downrightmikeyesterday at 11:46 PM

The government may not purchase services for acts it is not allowed to do itself: Pinkerton Act.

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