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lxgryesterday at 11:09 PM0 repliesview on HN

Yes, that's what I was getting at.

As a side note, in some countries, it is actually possible to initiate a direct debit at the POS (since cards sometimes contain enough information to recover the IBAN, mostly for historical reasons), but this has significant risks for the merchant and is usually not worth the hassle as debit card fees are very low anyway.