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xbartoday at 3:10 AM5 repliesview on HN

Exactly what everyone said when Patriot Act was passed and renewed repeatedly.

America permanently traded away basic freedoms for the bogus promise of safety in the shadow of fear. And the Supreme Court was too scared to stop it despite its obvious constitutional problems. Crying eagle photos in chain-emails were sufficient propaganda to keep it in place.


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rayinertoday at 3:28 AM

It wasn’t just the GOTW. It was much of the 20th century from World War I onward. Each step led to further centralization of government, a larger and larger security apparatus, and more and more foreign entanglements. We are more or less retracing the path of Rome as the Republic expanded militarily until it was no longer practical to run it as a republic and it transitioned to empire.

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nielsbottoday at 3:14 AM

> And the Supreme Court was too scared to stop it

Too scared? They may have been on board...

rhubarbtreetoday at 6:56 AM

Yep, a lot of people saw this coming. It was so obvious - new powers are always abused in the end. Same for the UK. Perhaps the politicians knew that and didn’t care. Not sure how deep their cynicism / malice goes. More power to us, they said.

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vlian2088today at 3:34 AM

>Exactly what everyone said when Patriot Act was passed

I've been seeing plenty of Americans cheering on temporary safety over essential liberty since then, and I can't even provide examples without getting [flagged].

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zwaragtoday at 6:01 AM

> Crying eagle photos in chain-emails

Can someone elaborate? Whwre is this reference comming from? A simple web search did not yield much

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