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fluoridationtoday at 6:05 AM1 replyview on HN

No. My question was not why am I forced to pay, my question was why should I pay. Obviously if I have to pay, I will (that's a logical necessity, because if I could avoid it then it was untrue that I had to, to begin with). Why should I pay? That is to say, by what mechanism am I saddled with the moral responsibility that justifies me having to spend my money to protect someone else's children? Given your line of argumentation, I'm going to guess that you don't have an answer to this question; your answer is that I should GFMS and just pay. Prove me wrong.


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intendedtoday at 6:44 AM

This is orbiting the issue of personal responsibility and social burdens.

I get the impression that you recognize that there are certain costs that are distributed on members of a society, because it is the least problematic way to address some collective action issue.

You could migrate to the libertarian ideal, if that is what suits you. if this counts as GFMS, I sadly don’t mean in it those terms.

I dont know you well enough to know what specific harms would matter to your wellbeing.

It could range from what the state of the next voting cohort will be.

It could range from having a social environment of better adjusted adults creating art, science or just relationships that will impact you as you age.

It’s more capacity for families, mental resilience and less dead weight loss of kids getting trapped into emotional tar pits.

It’s a signal that as a society we don’t want to see our kids addicted, and that if we impose such costs on ourselves, we will impose heavier costs on the perpetrators. There is a reckoning with social media and addictive design that is to be had; this is a step on that path.

It makes it easier for parents who are struggling, and reduces harm to kids and teens.

It may give us a way to deal with the absolute scourge of non consensual intimate imagery.

I’ve personally had to flag and remove stuff of that nature, and even in a country like america, that kind of content is life ending.

In a religiously conservative country, that can lead to much, much worse.

However this is a smorgasbord of ills that society as a whole is struggling to deal with.

You are a standing member of that society.

I don’t know you well enough to make a case that makes sense.

I will add, You also don’t look to be a passive member of society, so you are doubly screwed.

You get the bonus burden of having to think about how to solve the problem in the best manner possible.

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