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lnsrutoday at 1:11 PM3 repliesview on HN

I am an electrician. Got my certification done with Handwerkskammer, went to the city hall, registered my company and filled online form rejecting the option with VAT number since all my clients are in greater Munich area. Same path could be chosen with VAT number. Ranting about choosing most complex business form and having no money for a consultant is not adequate in my eyes. Btw I am always liable as electrician (since it is dangerous) and can’t hide behind limited liability company in Germany.


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ExoticPearTreetoday at 1:20 PM

> Ranting about choosing most complex business form and having no money for a consultant is not adequate in my eyes.

You shouldn't need a consultant to open a company. Should be a form and that's it. Maybe an accountant to certify your books, but that's it.

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thomas-skowrontoday at 2:15 PM

> Btw I am always liable as electrician (since it is dangerous) and can’t hide behind limited liability company in Germany.

Under some circumstances you can be held liable through a GmbH, but not generally speaking.

> rejecting the option with VAT number

Means you are planning to run a small business (making less than minimum wage on a yearly basis), also you are opting out of Vorsteuerabzug. Anyone that wants to live off their business needs VAT. And that is given by Bundeszentralamt für Steuern and the wait times are often excruciating.

Urahandystartoday at 1:23 PM

But his clients aren't all the the greater Munich area so how is that even similar? Surely having a complex form is the issue as this is what fits his needs. Why does the form need to be complicated?