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Lucasoatotoday at 1:18 PM2 repliesview on HN

Why so little? You are priviledged!

Imagine 3 young Italians that would like to work together in a startup. Let's consider only the first year, imagine a B2B SaaS, they are incorporating but they'll work on the product and approach possible customers. Zero revenue.

Well, if you followed the law, you probably would spend something between 23'000€ and 25'000€ in total. WITH NO REVENUE. This is because even if you work for free for your company, you still have to pay taxes for INPS, our pension system.

And if someone invests in your company, you can't live out of nothing and would like to pay a founder even the minimum salary, YOU HAVE TO PAY INPS AGAIN.

This is crazy, our country is a joke.

EDIT: Adding a bit more of scary context and nice sprites.

None of the common financial advisor you find in Italy have ever heard of funding ways or contract terms that are really well known globally.

Do you want to include drag along and tag along clauses in your company statute? You have to talk with really expert lawyers and notaries in Milan that will bill you thousands of € for something that in Delaware is a pretty much standard single line of text.


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earcartoday at 1:21 PM

That sucks, my fellow Italian. I haven't looked into our country since I live abroad for a long time, but I'm also paying health insurance here which is not cheap at all, and haven't added it to the post since it's not necessarily a company spend.

Cordiali saluti!

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philipwhiuktoday at 1:26 PM

Having to pay into the social welfare system you benefit from :O :O :O :O

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