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weinzierltoday at 1:36 PM5 repliesview on HN

Not to defend German bureaucracy but if you are serious and want results this is not how you do it.

If you want a GmbH quickly there are specialized lawyers that maintain a pool of freshly founded GmbH's for you to buy. Everything is set up for you to start. If you don't like certain things like the company name, you can always change it later.

That being said, I know plenty of people who founded their GmbH themselves and it went smoothly. It's not that it can't be done, it's more that OP chose an overly complicated and untypical scheme and was surprised about the complications.


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quadrifoliatetoday at 3:08 PM

> If you want a GmbH quickly there are specialized lawyers that maintain a pool of freshly founded GmbH's for you to buy.

The fact that this absurd situation exists is a huge proof that the bureaucracy has gotten out of hand and that Germany is unfriendly to starting new businesses.

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earcartoday at 1:44 PM

> there are specialized lawyers that maintain a pool of freshly founded GmbH's for you to buy

It doesn't sound easy nor cheap to buy a company and change the company name.

UG & Co. KG has a couple of advantages and while it did add some money and time to the table, it doesn't change the story.

Notaries in the US are the price of a dinner. Many people have waited up to 6 months to receive their VAT ID from Berlin.

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blablabla123today at 2:01 PM

> If you want a GmbH quickly there are specialized lawyers that maintain a pool of freshly founded GmbH's for you to buy.

That. It's possible to go even simpler if no limited liability is needed.

Just Gewerbeanmeldung costs maybe 30€ and takes less than a month normally. Large cities even have online forms for this.

Also the reporting duties are much simplified. ChatGPT and some accounting software are very helpful. Although a tax consultant and probably a liability insurance are recommended to avoid bad surprises.

flopbobtoday at 1:38 PM

Especially the combination of UG & Co KG. Never heard that one!

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nish1500today at 1:42 PM

I incorporated a GmbH with Musterprotokolle and it still look me longer than OP.