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Qualcomm to Acquire Modular

99 pointsby timmydtoday at 1:49 PM27 commentsview on HN

https://investor.qualcomm.com/news-events/press-releases/new...

https://www.modular.com/blog/qualcomm-to-acquire-modular

https://x.com/clattner_llvm/status/2069769232477192354, https://xcancel.com/clattner_llvm/status/2069769232477192354


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roflcopter69today at 12:43 PM

Tbh, Modular getting acquired happened sooner than I would have expected, if ever. Don't know how to feel about this one.

Also so many mixed feelings about Mojo, the programming language powering Modular. Of course Chris Lattner is free to pursue whatever he wants, his many contributions to tech will always be highly regarded, but to me it feels as if he "wasted" lots of his precious mental capacity on making Mojo a python-like language instead of trying to come up with something better from first principles. I know, the promise of Mojo eventually being a Python superset has been taken back, which I think is the right move, and I understand why Mojo's initial motivation for being close to Python was to attract ML folks, but I'm getting counterfactual regret just by thinking about what Chris Lattner could have achieved by making a new programming language truly from scratch and not letting some undesireable pythonisms muddy the language.

Anyway, sorry for rambling. Congrats to the team at Modular!

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maxlohtoday at 11:07 PM

I don't get it.

Qualcomm has almost no products in the high-end inference/training market. The industry standard is the NVIDIA Hopper H100/H200.

What could they possibly get from acquiring Modular?

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ssivarktoday at 6:26 PM

Qualcomm seems to be assembling a whole portfolio of technologies/products aimed at

1. Moving beyond ARM to RISC-V

2. Being competitive for AI/could needs instai of just chips for phones and other edge devices.

Interesting to see bold and high-conviction moves in this direction. Tenstorrent, Modular, Ventana, Alphawave, etc.

bobajefftoday at 1:47 PM

It's kind of funny that Modular is getting acquired by a hardware company considering what it's founder has said repeatedly in interviews and articles about how those companies fail to make AI stacks.

* https://www.modular.com/blog/democratizing-ai-compute-part-9...

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YuechenLitoday at 10:05 PM

I honestly think Mojo would be better served if it is just a high-level language for GPU programming that compiles down to PTX with clear Python/Rust interop boundaries instead of trying for the "one language, multiple computational model" thing that they seem to be going for. The programming model between CPU and GPU programming is very different: code that runs best on CPU with heavy branching behaviors should not be written the same way as massively parallel matrix multiplication oriented GPU code, which I think they will be forced to do in the MLIR level anyway.

So, you end up with a language that looks like Python, but doesn't behave like Python, and companies that adopt Mojo early with the promise of Python compatibility may find themselves running into edge cases with difficult to trace compiler error messages that would be nearly impossible to debug, especially with the addition of Zig style `comptime` as their metaprogramming model.

melodyogonnatoday at 1:04 PM

Related, Reuters reported the deal a few days ago, valued at $4b: https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/qualcomm-nearing...

melodyogonnatoday at 1:02 PM

Qualcomm has acquired excellent engineering talent here, the infrastructure I've seen Modular build in the 3 years I've followed the company is insane.

dwa3592today at 10:49 PM

Has anyone used mojo/modular extensively in their work? I installed it as soon as it was available but never went past the toy examples.

bit_economisttoday at 3:43 PM

It's interesting that acquire.fyi data shows tech M&A deal volume is down 11% year to date, but total deal value is up 40%. So, fewer deals are closing in tech, but the deals that are closing are much larger. I wish we had the deal value for this one.

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revengerwizardtoday at 4:31 PM

Oh, that is unexpected... I tried applying for a position at Modular a few days ago.

semiinfinitelytoday at 9:02 PM

latty gotta get his baggy

WhereIsTheTruthtoday at 8:05 PM

Of all possible acquirers, Qualcomm is the worst outcome for Mojo, rip

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ChrisArchitecttoday at 2:11 PM

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levodelellistoday at 10:00 PM

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samuelltoday at 3:57 PM

As a meta comment, I'm surprised such a news is not reaching the frontpage already.

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