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AustinDevtoday at 5:33 PM1 replyview on HN

>“50th rocket company, previous ones failed on financials not tech”

Its Falcon 9 has flown 667 times to orbit with a 99.55% success rate. SpaceX isn't like the other rocket companies and it's pretty obvious to anyone who looks at the metrics objectively. Not in technology or in finances.

>"minus $5B/year but AI/Space makes it +$200B”

$18.7B revenue in 2025. Starlink alone was $11.4B

The comparison to Iridium isn't even worth refuting because it's like comparing the Wright Flyer to the 747.

It's a shame that otherwise intelligent people have such difficulty objectively assessing anything Elon Musk; I assume it's mostly idealogical reasons. Do I think $135 is a bit high for the SpaceX IPO? probably. Do I agree with everything Elon Musk says? nah. Is Elon Musk the most capable entrepreneur and innovator to ever live? It's definitely possible.


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spwa4today at 7:50 PM

> $18.7B revenue in 2025. Starlink alone was $11.4B

But ... you do realize how you have to use those numbers right? SpaceX owns Starlink. So let's do some basic accounting.

For ease of calculation I call upon the Math Gods to change $11.4B to $12B.

SPCX -> Starlink $12B

Starlink -> SPCX $12B

SPCX uses 50% more than that amount to launch the rockets (because SPCX has a negative margin (if you include debt service + research), after with 50% SPCX would have less than $5B loss). Hence:

SPCX -> $18B (to whatever SPCX does to build rockets)

In other words: your fabulous "Starlink alone was $11.4B" really means SpaceX lost $18B (a bit less) and gained starlink shares, which it already owned ... in other words: that revenue represents a $18B loss for the company.

This is the same problem people have with AI spending, but there the math is 100x more complicated.

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