alt Hacker News>This is great for competition! Chinese vendors offering a cheaper solution = what economics told me the free market was all about.
Yeah, like all those Chinese bootleggers selling DVDs for a few dollars rather than $20. Free market!
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Bootlegging is copyright theft.
Is Claude output copyrighted?
If anything, a tremendous amount of Claude’s input is copyrighted.
If there’s any bootlegging going on it’s Anthropic that’s doing the bootlegging but having mirrored the video etc sufficiently to beat copyright law.
It's quite curious how multi billion dollar enterprises can't compete with a Chinese bootlegger with a big jacket, tbh.
Imagine having such a warchest and being so bad at business, lol.
Free market would of course allow bootleg DVD sales, state regulation that gives monopoly rights restrict it.
In the context of LLMs, monopoly rights haven't been created (yet anyway).
Fun fact: for a period the US (or american colonies) didn't have copyright but Europe did, so people could copy and sell English (and other) books for free.
The output of Claude is not eligible for copyright protection. I'm not sure how the analogy of bootlegging DVDs would work, given that.
BigAI are all in the bootlegging market themselves, so it's always funny to see them complaining about others copying their "product".
> Yeah, like all those Chinese bootleggers selling DVDs for a few dollars rather than $20. Free market!
It's supremely ironic analogize distillation to copyright infringement when it's literally what Anthropic was found guilty of. It's not illegal to distill. It is illegal to pirate. And it's what Anthropic was found guilty of, not Alibaba.
https://apnews.com/article/anthropic-authors-copyright-judge...
I bet you've downloaded a car.
And those darned printing presses distributing works that were written prior to their existence.
More like one bootlegger complaining that another bootlegger is copying their bootleg DVDs.
This is also a good thing fwiw.
"Information wants to be free"
Anthropic profited from training its models on all kinds of copyrighted information, live by the sword, die by the sword...
Their model weights, training data, training methods, etc are all going to leak to China over time.
Nobody on a site named _Hacker_ news should be all that upset about this.