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JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 9:51 PM3 repliesview on HN

> OAI canceling an IPO this year a week after he released their dogshit financials

There is zero evidence of any causal link between him and this. The obvious one, instead, is SpaceX's volatility.

> Do me a favor and tell me how much of the 1,000,000,000,000 spent / committed to a datacenter buildout has been returned to shareholders / investors?

If Anthropic also delays its IPO, you'll have a point.


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dofmyesterday at 11:32 PM

> There is zero evidence of any causal link between him and this.

How would there be? He's a blogger and a youtuber, they are a private company with secretive financials, bankers involved in pre-IPO work don't talk openly. Nobody is going to say "we only decided not to do this because of a youtuber" because that would make them look like the ill-informed, over-eager idiots they've been to let this nonsense get this far.

Why would there be any concrete evidence it was down to him specifically, and not, say, dozens of finance people saying "what the *fuck* is that marketing budget about — that's so large it looks like something's been hidden in it" after reading about it from him and the FT and everyone else who was involved.

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SpicyLemonZestyesterday at 10:03 PM

In what way is SpaceX's volatility an obvious cause? It would be one thing if SpaceX was down from its IPO price, but it's not, it's just down from a post-IPO peak. To me this has all the hallmarks of a backfilled rationalization.

> OpenAI’s advisers presented company executives with the option of waiting until 2027 to go public with a $1 trillion valuation, or lower the targeted valuation for a quicker I.P.O. Mr. Altman, said one person in contact with him on the topic, responded that any change to the trillion-dollar valuation was a nonstarter.

I really don't know how to read this and reach any conclusion other than, OpenAI leadership won't accept what financial analysts consider to be a rational valuation of its stock.

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therobots927yesterday at 9:55 PM

SpaceX demonstrated that the public markets have a limited tolerance for a multi-trillion dollar company that doesn’t make any money.

Ed’s leaks demonstrated that OAI doesn’t make money (even on inference).

Put these two together and I think the conclusion is pretty obvious.

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