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mohsen1today at 5:27 PM7 repliesview on HN

> Additionally, we’re introducing a new `ultra` mode that goes beyond the capabilities of a single agent by leveraging subagents to accelerate complex work.

I'm curious about how does this work? Do the subagents also get to use the same tools? Will the client be flooded with tool calls? Why extra pricing for a new "model" when the same thing can happen in the client with more controls?

And if it's an army of subagents, why do they compare it to Fable and Mythos? Those models with similar harness would probably bench better I'm guessing


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gck1today at 6:02 PM

If it's anything like ClaudeCode's ultracode, it's nothing new or revolutionary.

It's essentially a bunch of subagents being called by a deterministic script written by the main model thread, each eating tokens for lunch and output of which is synthesized by an orchestrator agent.

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rolisztoday at 8:38 PM

If it's anything like Claude Ultracode, it burns 3 million tokens in half an hour with a single prompt.

derwikitoday at 5:53 PM

Don’t all the major harnesses (pi, Claude code, codex) utilize sub agents? Def if you direct it to, but I’ve seen at least pi spin them up without explicit instruction.

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jamiltontoday at 6:09 PM

Yeah, I'm interested too. My guess for the reason, if not purely to eke out more performance, is so they can cleanly gather real-world data on this kind of usage.

alansabertoday at 5:54 PM

I'm shocked they didn't use subagents already. Maybe they're just talking about their web deployment being unified with codex?

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simianwordstoday at 5:50 PM

Claude also has ultra code mode which is exactly the same thing. This seems to be different from pro however.