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jeroenhdtoday at 1:37 AM4 repliesview on HN

I don't buy that anymore. The day America threatened to invade Canada and Denmark was the day America showed they cannot be trusted any more.

It's not like China can be trusted either, but China isn't planning any direct invasions to the west. Taiwan, perhaps, but they're playing a long-term tactical game rather than a "invade the country we don't like this week" game. They might get some info on you, but the data brokers in the west will sell a lot more details about you, pre-categorized and all.

If you're afraid of industrial espionage, Chinese companies may be a risk, but in that case you shouldn't be uploading your secrets to an AI company in the first place.


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orwintoday at 7:01 AM

> If you're afraid of industrial espionage, Chinese companies may be a risk

Read about GE and Alstom and how the US government (under Obama) forced the sell at a discount, without a true GE financial audit.

No, experience tell if you're a foreign company owner, you risk less allying with the CCP than with the US. At worst with the CCP you'll lose your IP, with the US you will get arrested and be forced to 'sell' (I.E. you'll get overpriced stocks)

ThatMedicIsASpytoday at 6:49 AM

America can't be trusted since the patriot act - the day I said to myself I'll never visit.

And I can't trust my gov to grow some balls and say we will no longer negotiate with a senile old child raping man baby.

I can't even trust any company having their workers include or upload my data to a free AI model.

ratoday at 3:15 AM

I agree. Our greatest nation-threats are not the countries we're told they are.

ElProlactintoday at 3:45 AM

> Taiwan, perhaps, but they're playing a long-term tactical game rather than a "invade the country we don't like this week" game.

So one of the world's biggest and most rapid military build-ups in history that is largely intended to give China the ability to seize a democratic country by force by 2027 over any US/Western efforts to protect it is OK because...it's "a long-term tactical game"?

Note that China is not just menacing Taiwan. It's constantly harassing Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam too. Other countries in the region are worried because they understand that if China takes Taiwan successfully, it's not likely to stop there and become a good, peaceful neighbor.

The US, under Trump, is a foreign policy disaster. That doesn't mean that China, with a seemingly more emotionally stable dictator at the helm, is any less dangerous.

> They might get some info on you, but the data brokers in the west will sell a lot more details about you, pre-categorized and all.

With all due respect, you're really naive about how China operates.

https://www.wired.com/story/chineses-surveillance-state-is-s...

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