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handoflixueyesterday at 5:08 PM3 repliesview on HN

Do you have a definition of "smart" such that there is something an AI could do to prove itself intelligent?

Or are you just defining "fast" as something only horses can do, and considering that a useful insight about cars?


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efreaktoday at 6:02 AM

Long-term memory, for one. (reliving your entire life every time you do an action isn't memory). Creativity in new areas without training. Children at school are capable of "discovering" math solutions/methods that are known to others but hasn't been taught to them.

There's nothing intelligent about a math processor, even if it's automated.

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utopiahtoday at 9:55 AM

My point was more about agency and anthropomorphization than the definition of intelligence, which is why I didn't just quote "smart" but rather "getting smart".

slopinthebagyesterday at 5:42 PM

A future AI may be intelligent, but LLMs are clearly not. They have no agency, no ability to reason, and no world model. The most effective way to use them is to treat them as next token prediction machines, because that’s what they are.

edit: downvotes but no rebuttals. feel free to show me where the agency, reasoning from first principles, world model etc exists. or you can ask an llm and they'll tell you they don't have those.

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