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elliotbnvlyesterday at 7:54 PM6 repliesview on HN

Definitely an invasion of privacy. I can’t visit this website in good faith. It should be taken down.

The point is valuable, and the mission is important, but the ends do not justify the means. If this must be shared, at least use static pictures and don’t stream the content for viewers.


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nik282000yesterday at 8:16 PM

Yes and no? The owners of these devices made them publicly available by design or through ignorance. While they should be notified of their (maybe) mistake, it's no different from a person who doesn't understand that their neighbours can see into an open window at night.

Should Shodan be taken down because it can search for these devices? What about Google because it can find admin consoles?

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imglorpyesterday at 9:07 PM

It's not the site's fault.

These things are open server ports on the wild internet. Anyone with a "for" loop can find them easily. If they care about privacy they shouldn't have them public.

TZubiriyesterday at 10:07 PM

"Your honour I just scanned a list of all devices in the planet and filtered those that looked like cameras and made a website such that even more people can access it even more easily."

I get it if you think this is a legal gray area (it's not), but it's surprising to see how many people seem to think this is plain justified. Makes me think that there's some users that gravitate towards this site because the hacker in hackernews refers to hacking as in accessing systems without permission.

If you think hosting a website like this is ok, I encourage you to talk to a criminal lawyer and consider if you are a criminal. At least do it knowingly, do not pretend shit like this is fine.

mike_hockyesterday at 9:41 PM

No, the world's job is not to make itself safe for you if you don't give a crap.

If you roll your eyes at the thought of having to manage credentials or refuse to learn how the internet works on a basic level, you're not fit to set up devices connected to the internet.

Secure your shit or don't play with technology you can't handle.

Mistletoeyesterday at 8:32 PM

I think the website is kind of awesome. If you put a window in your home and opened it to the world is it wrong to look through the window? If someone installed the camera and didn’t understand what they are doing that is on them.

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mannanjyesterday at 8:20 PM

Do you feel this is true for government agencies too?

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